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June 28, 2006

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Matthew Lang

Personally, I like the World Cup logo. It's simple and bright.

I think one thing that should be taken into consideration here is the timelessness of the logo. Simple logos that convey the name of a company and can be reduced to single colours and stuff is necessary for companies that want to be instantly recognised in this modern world of global companies.

The world cup logo however is only used in earnest for a couple of years before you hardly ever see it again. As soon as the world cup passes, very few people will use the logo.

Can you actually compare the Apple logo with the world cup logo on even ground?

Garr

Right, good point, Matthew. I too personally do not think it is "bad" as a World Cup event logo. I personally do not like it much, but that is largely a matter of taste. For as you say, this event is rather short lived. The World Cup 06 logo does not have the same kind of "responsibility" long-term as the logo for a firm or organization. The various World Cup logos do not really need to hold over time or pass the same criteria as other kinds of logos. They are not really memorable -- but they do not have to be.

The World Cup 06 logo is fine for the World Cup, perhaps. *If* though this kind of logo (too many elements,etc.) were to be used for a firm or product, it would be weak. Thanks for your good comment. -G

Anndra

BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche have great design? Recent BMWs are renowned for their, um, 'controversial' design, and when did you last see a new Mercedes that wasn't either dull, or looked like it had been designed to go in a cardboard box with a free Barbie. Porsche design hasn't changed for 100 years. Audi? Yeh, I think they get it.

Paul D

I'm with Herr Spiekermann. I think the World Cup 2006 logo is pretty awful.

Torsten Liebig

Funny thing that you're bringing up the logo discussion again. I live in germany and followed the entire discussion live when they made the logo public. To be honest, I did not have any special emotions to neither soccer nor the logo back then.

Now, the World Cup is here, and I must admit that the logo just fits - at least for me. I think the PR people did a perfect job: both the logo and the claim of the World Cup ("The world hosted by friends") are aimed straight at a wonderful time for all visitors. And that is exactly what is happening: all nations of the world are coming to germany and having a great party together, and generally all people are open-minded and friendly. If the match does not involve the german team, german fans naturally dress up for one of the two other nations. The entire World Cup just seems to be made of happy, joyful people, with hardly any envy between rivaling teams. I wonder how much of that comes just through the logo and claim which seem to support that very open-mindedness and friendlyness!

Garr

>>Mercedes that wasn't either dull, or looked like it had been designed to go in a cardboard box with a free Barbie. Porsche design hasn't changed for 100 years.

Good thing I didn't say Opel ;-) -G

Garr

>>I wonder how much of that comes just through the logo and claim which seem to support that very open-mindedness and friendlyness!

In the Design Observer article (link below) they talk about context and how logos derive meaning. It is not the logo per se (which is not to say that design does not matter, it does) but what the logo comes to represent. This world Cup may indeed be special because even *I* have been watching and getting into it (and I was not at all a fan before). If the Cup in Germany turns out to be an outstanding, special event, then people may have a different view of the logo *after* the event (for those who care).

About the Rolls Royce logo, for example, Rand said: "...what makes the Rolls Royce emblem so distinguished is not its design (which is commonplace), but the quality of the automobile for which it stands." Thanks, Torsten. -G

met

Maybe you don't put that much importance to logos.
Almost never does a logo makeup for the actual product/event.

I think we don't like a logo when the product is lacking what the logo promises or the logo promises something entirely different from what the product delivers.

Having 'guidelines' for logo designing and such is the most stupidest things I've seen people do. Thats why Britney Spears is popular but might not be legendary for her music ( - because they use guidelines on what a celebrity should be or maybe the record labels choose artists based on set guidelines)

met

Adding to my above post:

"I think we don't like a logo when the product is lacking what the logo promises or the logo promises something entirely different from what the product delivers."

Which means the logo and marketing comes after the event/product is designed.
Why don't we see such an important step mentioned in the guidelines? Is it commonsense and hence don't appear in the literature?


Infact Torsten feels that the logo is appropriate because he is right in the middle of the event. How is the logo unsuccesful in this case?
Of course it doesn't fit into a particular model, so that makes it bad?

I don't particularly have feelings (like or dislike) for this logo, but I hope someone could come up with something different from swishes and casual strokes for event logos.

Alan Pritt

What really springs out at me with the World Cup logos is the fact that they change completely year on year. I understand the need to brand each event, but wouldn't it be worth having the equivalent of the Olympic rings?

After all: "It is over time, depending on the performance of the organization/product that the logo represents that associations, good or bad, will be formed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_logos

marc

it's a fun logo to look at but it does violate the rules that allow a logo to be seen in one color or reduced. But what many brands do is have a complex logo that is used big and in full color and also create reduced versions for smaller sizes.

Anyone who has ever worked on AT&T knows that there's an 8-line version of their globe for small size to retain the lines, as well as a 12 line version and reverse versions so the "glow" is always a light color. When judging a logo that's used for a short period of time like the World Cup we have to consider that it's not logical to create all these extra logos and that for the most part these logos are being used large.

Durf

South Africa has pulled out all the stops to produce a logo even busier than the German one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5160298.stm

I suppose they can claim "exuberant tribal diversity" more easily than the no-nonsense Germans, but still.

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